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Deleting a request for help in less than 24 hours without a response

@Matěj Suchánek: Can you help me, please?

I've been trying for months to figure out how to use Wikidata to build local directories of things with certain properties, so far without success. Last 2022-11-22 Wikimedia:Ziski Putz suggested I contact Wikimedia:User:Pharos and others. I tried those so far without success. I wrote to Wikimedia:Lydia Pintscher, the Product Manager for Wikidata. She suggested I post a question to Wikidata Project Chat.

I clicked "Watch this page" and tried to check my settings to ensure I would get notice of any changes to this page. Then when I checked back, I found that User:Matěj Suchánek had "move"d my question, slightly less than 24 hours after I had posted it. I could not find it in the Archives for this page. Worse, I have not received an email of this change, even though the page says I'm "watching" it, and "Email me when a page or a file on my watchlist is changed" under my "Preferences" is checked.

To where did you move my question? More importantly for me, how can I get help with this question?

Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 20:13, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@DavidMCEddy: Sure. I moved it to Wikidata:Project chat#How to crowdsource specialized directories using Wikidata? and indicated it in the edit summary. That is the Wikidata Project Chat, exactly where Lydia pointed you to. This place is Wikidata talk:Project chat which if anything is supposed to hold discussions regarding the Project chat itself. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 20:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Matěj Suchánek: Thanks. I there's so much material at the top of that page that I didn't see the content below. So I posted here. Thanks again for the clarification. I see I already have a reply there. DavidMCEddy (talk) 20:33, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

For future reference, you can use the "View history" tab at the top of any page (in the desktop interface, anyway) to see a list of all the changes made to that page. That's where you would have found Matěj's edit summary he referred to. Also, note that only the first edit made to a page after you start "watching" it will trigger a notification. Subsequent edits will not result in any further notifications until you actually visit the page again. So, I'm guessing what happened is that you got a notification about Revi-bot's archiving of one section here and then missed the subsequent change by Matěj, because you didn't view the page between those two edits. - dcljr (talk) 01:33, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 01:46, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

@Dcljr, are you referring to watchlisting pages or subscribing to discussion topics? Because watchlisting a page has never sent me any notifications. That's not how watchlisting works. Elizium23 (talk) 03:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

I think dcljr is referring to notifications about watched pages by email. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 08:28, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

It appears that you're correct. "Notification" has a narrower meaning now that we have the bona fide feature. I wouldn't refer to watchlist emails as "notifications"; I don't think that MediaWiki does, either.

But I would also suggest that, in light of newer discussion-related features, OP would be better served by subscribing to threads rather than clumsily watchlisting the entire noticeboard. The latter is distinctively "old school" at this point. Indeed, OP would've received a very informative notification at every stage. Elizium23 (talk) 08:47, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Can't subscribe to topics

I don't see the subscribe button on topics of the Project Chat. This probably isn't intended and should be fixed. Janhrach (talk) 09:40, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

It displays for me just fine. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:14, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

I don't know what is the problem, but I still can't see the subscribe button.

On the mobile version, for some reason, I can't see subscribe buttons on pages that are not in "*Talk" namespaces (e.g. the Wikipedia Village Pump, Wikidata Project Chat), but when I switch to the desktop mode, I can subscribe to Village Pump topics of enwiki, but still not to this page. Janhrach (talk) 08:49, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

I don't have a smartphone, but I'm pretty sure that it's typical to have "Desktop view" at the bottom of the page, just like how I have "Mobile view". As a last resort, you can try switching back and forth. Otherwise, this may be a problem for phab:. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:02, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

I can now subscribe in the desktop mode. Subscribing in the mobile mode still doesn't work, but it is a wider problem and I'll do something about it later. Janhrach (talk) 18:11, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

merge Desagüe (Q85756521) into Gran Canal del Desagüe (Q5884583)

Both of these refer to the canal around Mexico City used for drainage (i.e. flood control).

I suggest merging Q85756521 into Q5884583 ("Gran Canal del Desagüe"). Thank you. Fabrickator (talk) 09:50, 5 March 2024 (UTC) updated Fabrickator (talk) 17:37, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Agreed and  Done. Next time you could try merging it by yourself — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:45, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

@Fabrickator, or you can use the page Help talk:Merge‎ for future requests. Michgrig (talk) 21:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)