Talk:Q7318
Autodescription — Nazi Germany (Q7318)
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- Generic queries for administrative territorial entities
This list of queries is designed for all instances of administrative territorial entity (Q56061). It is generated using {{TP administrative area}}.
Geography
- Places in Nazi Germany (query)
- Map of places in Nazi Germany (query)
- List of monuments (Monumental (Q29167605))
- List of places ordered by altitude (query) (Based on elevation above sea level (P2044).)
- Count of buildings by architectural style (query)
- List of highest buildings (query) (Based on height (P2048).)
- Organizations with headquarters in Nazi Germany (query)
- List of items which have power over or which apply to Nazi Germany (query) (applies to jurisdiction (P1001))
People
- People born in Nazi Germany, sorted by number of sitelinks (query)
- Main occupation of people born in Nazi Germany (query)
- People dead in Nazi Germany, sorted by number of sitelinks (query) (place of death (P20))
- People buried in Nazi Germany, sorted by number of sitelinks (query) (place of burial (P119))
- People living in Nazi Germany, sorted by number of sitelinks (query) (residence (P551))
Arts and fictions
- List of items with narrative location in Nazi Germany (query) (narrative location (P840))
- List of movies with filming location in Nazi Germany (query) (filming location (P915))
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P706[edit]
I removed located in/on physical feature (P706), since German Reich (Q1206012) is not a terrain feature (natural feature like an island, etc.). Rather, it's a historical country. Superm401 - Talk 21:38, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
English label[edit]
I have again reverted a change of label, from "German Reich" to Nazi Germany". The latter is not a formal name, but a colloquialism. en:Nazi Germany#Name says:
The official name of the state was Deutsches Reich (German Reich) from 1933 to 1943, and Großdeutsches Reich (Greater German Reich) from 1943 to 1945. The name Deutsches Reich is usually translated into English as "German Empire" or "German Reich"
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:29, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- "German Empire" seems incorrect, too. The empire was abolished at the end of WW I when Germany became a republic. --Randykitty (talk) 06:29, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- Nazy gernamy is also known as "Third Reich" meaning "Third empire" because it was defined as the third german empire. So "German Empire" is not correct because it is not doing any difference between the three german empires but "third german empire" or "third Reich" is correct. Snipre (talk) 19:45, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: The problem is that Großdeutsches Reich is a name which defined Germanynot only between 1933-1945 but was used already before during the Weimar republic: Weimar republic is not an official name but a name to distinguish the official entity before the WWII. Snipre (talk) 19:52, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
- We have plenty of other items with non-unique names. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:06, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello, to make some things clear: the item does not relate to a "historical state" but to the actual German state but in a different time. In the same way, "Weimar Republic" is just the German state in a peticular age. The German name was, from 1871 to 1945, "Deutsches Reich". The Anglophones use "German Empire" up to 1918 and "German Reich" after 1918. Note that some language version of Wikipedia say "Third Reich", while German Wikipedia use this for a peticular article just only about this propaganda term. Z. (talk) 08:38, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Ziko: So, if this isn't the item for a historical state, should all the normal country-level statements (subdivisions, borders, heads of state, anthem, etc) be moved to German Reich (Q1206012)? Or somewhere else? Whatever the country-level item is, the country (P17) statements should point there. --Yair rand (talk) 06:10, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- Good question. In general, I have some difficulty with how Wikidata handles these things, but I don't know of a good solution. Ziko (talk) 06:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hello Yair rand, thanks for your link to German Reich (Q1206012). I am now looking also at German Empire (Q43287). The first one (your link) is, coming from German Wikipedia I guess, about the term "Deutsches Reich", the name Germany had from 1871-1945. The second one is about the historical period 1871-1918. I am going to check out how Wikidata deals with these different items. It can be quite confusing - also for most Germans. :-) Ziko (talk) 06:38, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Putnik: I see you've removed the P17 Q1206012 value. Do you have an opinion on which item should be considered the country entity? --Yair rand (talk) 12:12, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hello Yair rand, thanks for your link to German Reich (Q1206012). I am now looking also at German Empire (Q43287). The first one (your link) is, coming from German Wikipedia I guess, about the term "Deutsches Reich", the name Germany had from 1871-1945. The second one is about the historical period 1871-1918. I am going to check out how Wikidata deals with these different items. It can be quite confusing - also for most Germans. :-) Ziko (talk) 06:38, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- Good question. In general, I have some difficulty with how Wikidata handles these things, but I don't know of a good solution. Ziko (talk) 06:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- It appears that User:Silesianus and User:Xxlfussel are sort-of edit warring over the P17 value, which is quite related to this. --Yair rand (talk) 22:18, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
Nazi-Germany was a sovereign state, but the latter had no starting date of "1933"[edit]
I just deleted the two dates 1933 and 1945 at "sovereign state" - that would mean that Nazi Germany as a legal entity would have started in 1933, but strictly it was no legal entity - it's just a term for attributing the state "Deutsches Reich" in this period, as was already pointed out somewhat similar above. This becomes more clear with the following example: The same state "Deutsches Reich" before 1933 was called "Weimar Republic", ranging in the same classification type as "Nazi Germany". However, while the Weimar Republic certainly died in 1933, the legal entity "Deutsches Reich" did not change. Hence, in the Weimar Republic entry in Wikidata, it would be equally wrong (as in the present case) to write "sovereign state" with an end date of 1933. Even in 1945, the legal entity/sovereign state "Deutsches Reich" did (legally) not vanish or end, according to established constitutional court jurisdiction from Germany from 1973 source. Pittigrilli (talk) 20:13, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Nazi-Germany (NS-Staat) was neither a historical state nor a sovereign state, it was just a historical period. From 1871 to 1945 the state was called "Deutsches Reich". All banknotes, coins and, for example, postage stamps that were produced from 1871 to 1945 bore the imprint "Deutsches Reich", not even "Deutsches Kaiserreich" or "Weimarer Republik". From October 1943 the first stamp with the imprint Großdeutsches Reich came out and this was kept until 1945. There were never any postage stamps with the imprint Hitler-Deutschland or anything like that. --HarryNº2 (talk) 08:01, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Nazi-Germany was not a sovereign state but a period[edit]
@Infovarius: the State was Deutsches Reich, which was the treaty partner so please revert See also discussion above. Oursana (talk) 11:58, 24 March 2024 (UTC)