Property talk:P1483

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kulturnoe-nasledie.ru ID
identifier for an item in a Russian cultural heritage register
Applicable "stated in" valuekulturnoe-nasledie.ru (Q50339681)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domaincultural heritage site in Russia (Q8346700) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed values\d{10}
ExampleRussian Museum (Q211043)7810526000
Pokrovsky Cathedral (Q14187)4710207000
Sunken Ships Monument (Q14681)9230208000
Formatter URLhttps://ru-monuments.toolforge.org/wikivoyage.php?id=$1
Robot and gadget jobsPBot will import values from Russian Wikipedia
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P1483 (Q56229775)
Related to country Russia (Q159) (See 345 others)
See alsoEGROKN ID (P5381)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total67,777
Main statement67,771>99.9% of uses
Qualifier3<0.1% of uses
Reference3<0.1% of uses
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Item “heritage designation (P1435): Items with this property should also have “heritage designation (P1435)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1483#Item P1435, search, SPARQL
Format “\d{10}: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1483#Format, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1483#Item P17, search
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1483#Item P131, search, SPARQL
Item “coordinate location (P625): Items with this property should also have “coordinate location (P625)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1483#Item P625, SPARQL
Item “Commons category (P373): Items with this property should also have “Commons category (P373)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1483#Item P373, search, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1483#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1483#Scope, SPARQL
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1483#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1483#Single value, SPARQL

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kulturnoe-nasledie dot ru[edit]

  • h_t_t_p_://nasledie-archive dot ru/
Archive of cultural heritage

This site contains materials of the now closed portal kulturnoe-nasledie.ru (a saved copy of the main page in the Internet Archive) created by the FGUP GIVTS of the Ministry of Culture of Russia in 2008 and finally closed in March 2017.

He was replaced by a new site http://mkrf.ru/ais- egrkn - Unified State Register of Objects of Cultural Heritage (Monuments of History and Culture) of the Peoples of the Russian Federation, but:

the new portal contains fewer objects, and it is unlikely that we will ever see there destroyed and disarmed old monuments that were on the portal kulturnoe-nasledie.ru; it contains a new numbering of objects, and in the Wikimedia projects the links under the old numbers are preserved; and, finally, the old portal contained remarkable scans of passports of objects with historical photos; Explore the archives and connect to the ordering of the list of cultural heritage sites in Wikipedia!

Архив культурного наследия

На этом сайте представлены материалы ныне закрытого портала kulturnoe-nasledie.ru (сохранённая копия главной странице в Internet Archive), созданного ФГУП ГИВЦ Минкультуры России в 2008 году и окончательно закрытого в марте 2017 года.

Ему на смену пришёл новый сайт http://mkrf.ru/ais-egrkn — Единый государственный реестр объектов культурного наследия (памятников истории и культуры) народов Российской Федерации, но:

новый портал содержит меньшее количество объектов, и вряд ли мы когда-либо увидим там уничтоженные и снятые с охраны старые памятники, которые были на портале kulturnoe-nasledie.ru; он содержит новую нумерацию объектов, а в проектах Викимедии сохранились ссылки под старыми номерами; и, наконец, старый портал содержал замечательные сканы паспортов объектов с историческими фото; Исследуйте архивы и подключайтесь к упорядочеванию списков памятников культурного наследия в Викигиде! 50.254.21.213 03:13, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weird label change[edit]

@Svetlov Artem: this property is for cultural heritage monuments, why did you change it to Wikivoyage? That seems to be a weird change of scope. Multichill (talk) 21:26, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Russian wikivoyage users told me that they has concensus to use P1483 as Wikivoyage list identifiers. They add new numbers for new added historical objects, despite of closing website kulturnoe-nasledie.ru, and require to add this property in Wikidata for all historical objects.
https://ru.wikivoyage.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0:Svetlov_Artem#%D0%9E%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BA%D0%B8%20%D0%B2%20Wikidata Svetlov Artem (talk) 21:41, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment I think this needs more context. Website kulturnoe-nasledie.ru was closed years ago, and replaced with EGROKN (P5381) that has completely different IDs. Old database was partially saved and became a foundation for a cultural heritage project in Russian Wikivoyage. In that project they started to create new IDs, using check numbers 3 (for new officially recognized heritage) and 4 (for not recognized heritage). Old IDs have check numbers 0, 1 and 2 located at the 3rd place after the region code. Now big number of these IDs has no any connection with kulturnoe-nasledie.ru, so this rename seems legit. Красный (talk) 08:30, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In cultural heritage template in Russian Wikipedia, the value of this property is referred to as "Russian Wikivoyage database identifier" (Код-памятника). Volunteers of the Russian Wikivoyage organize Wiki Loves Monuments XXXX (since 2014) in Russia and maintain cultural heritage lists. Avsolov (talk) 09:00, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]