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* Time is changing. Now the task about genus-species linking almost expired because Succu has done most of it. I can still perform the task of labelling species by its scientific name. I support en, de, fr, ru labels and descriptions but can gather information about as many languages as possible. But I won't do it without approving of flag as I'm afraid it'll be in vain because of vast burocracy... [[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:01, 14 October 2014 (UTC) |
* Time is changing. Now the task about genus-species linking almost expired because Succu has done most of it. I can still perform the task of labelling species by its scientific name. I support en, de, fr, ru labels and descriptions but can gather information about as many languages as possible. But I won't do it without approving of flag as I'm afraid it'll be in vain because of vast burocracy... [[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:01, 14 October 2014 (UTC) |
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:: There are [http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/autolist1.html?q=CLAIM%5B105%3A7432%5D%20and%20NOCLAIM%5B171%5D around 300.000 items left]. :) --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:47, 14 October 2014 (UTC) |
:: There are [http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/autolist1.html?q=CLAIM%5B105%3A7432%5D%20and%20NOCLAIM%5B171%5D around 300.000 items left]. :) --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:47, 14 October 2014 (UTC) |
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::: Why do not the two of you agree on some well-defined task, and then I could flag the bot.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:44, 15 October 2014 (UTC) |
Revision as of 06:44, 15 October 2014
Structor
Structor (talk • contribs • new items • new lexemes • SUL • Block log • User rights log • User rights • xtools)
Operator: Infovarius (talk • contribs • logs)
Task/s: Setting claims, labels and description. Some small (<1000) portions of edits which will be tedious to do by hand. Particular task: To provide structural information for species items. genera under consideration.
Code: Uses API functions through URLFetch function of Wolfram Mathematica which is not open-source. Mathematica code of main edit function, Mathematica code of the task.
Function details: Just an example. The bot gets a list of potential items like for genus Eutreptia. I view the list and extract working list (here I remove the genus itself). Then the bot goes and do such edits. The item for genus I choose or create by myself if necessary. --Infovarius (talk) 15:50, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- Making strange, unsourced edits to Universe (Q1) like these? Its completly unclear what your strange named bot will do. A common name for your first bot would be InfovariusBot. Regards --Succu (talk) 18:52, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- Q1 was first-try error. As its name assumes Structor will make a structures by different properties. I don't know if it needs a bot-flag for small tasks. I hoped that the flag helps me to do quicker edits through API, but may be it's not the case. --Infovarius (talk) 11:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- I don't want to rename the bot as it has SUL with ~0.5 mln edits. --Infovarius (talk) 11:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: Your bot added a lot of duplicate P31 and P171 claims. Why?--GZWDer (talk) 12:57, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- A lot? I know about 1 duplicate P31 which I've corrected already. --Infovarius (talk) 16:49, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: And, Please do not use confused edit summary [1]--GZWDer (talk) 04:56, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
- I want to do it as precisely as I can. What variant do you propose? Infovarius (talk) 05:00, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
- @GZWDer:, please tell me what summary should be? --Infovarius (talk) 15:54, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: If you use wbeditentity, you can set summary as "import Pxx/Pxx/Pxx"; You can use no summary if you use wbcreateclaim.--GZWDer (talk) 09:00, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- Don't forgt to add stated in (P248) as reference.--GZWDer (talk) 09:02, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- Hm, there's a problem. I am deriving genus from the species latin names. What should I note as source? Infovarius (talk) 12:03, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: You can use no source if the claim is obvious.--GZWDer (talk) 12:12, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- Hm, there's a problem. I am deriving genus from the species latin names. What should I note as source? Infovarius (talk) 12:03, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- Don't forgt to add stated in (P248) as reference.--GZWDer (talk) 09:02, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: If you use wbeditentity, you can set summary as "import Pxx/Pxx/Pxx"; You can use no summary if you use wbcreateclaim.--GZWDer (talk) 09:00, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: Your bot added a lot of duplicate P31 and P171 claims. Why?--GZWDer (talk) 12:57, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- AFAIU, only the Mathematica engine is non-free, while you can redistribute programs based on it. --Ricordisamoa 00:10, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: do you haz teh codez? :P --Ricordisamoa 23:26, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Ricordisamoa, Succu: I've updated the request with the codes. Infovarius (talk) 11:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
@Infovarius:: For your tests you should use our testrepo test.wikidata.org, not wikidata (see history of Hydrangea candida). --Succu (talk) 12:09, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- There is no reaction and an obvious a lack of experience. So I decided to oppose. --Succu (talk) 21:57, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Succu: You should @Infovarius: to get more message.--GZWDer (talk) 10:24, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: Do more test edits please!--GZWDer (talk) 10:25, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
- I've learned API:wbeditentity, so I can do now such edits. Infovarius (talk) 21:26, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Succu: Structor is being tested at testwikidata:Special:Contributions/Structor.--GZWDer (talk) 14:53, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- @GZWDer:: I know. I see some test edits. But I don't see a reasonable summary, which you demanded. @Infovarius: You should choose a clear and limited area of operation for your first but run. It would be nice if you could define it and run some further test edits. --Succu (talk) 15:17, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think that my task will be: "To provide structural information for species items." There are so many of empty (without properties) species which I am running into. --Infovarius (talk) 12:03, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- It's not true that most taxa have no properties. Two questions:
- There are some hundred genra with the same name. How do you identify the correct one for parent taxon (P171)?
- Based on which assumptions you will use taxon (Q16521) / monotypic taxon (Q310890) for instance of (P31)?
- --Succu (talk) 06:45, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- 1. I am trying to skip homonymous genera at first. 2. I use taxon (Q16521) always. While for species monotypic taxon (Q310890) is always OK too, I suppose, superset is also correct. --Infovarius (talk) 21:24, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- To „skip homonymous genera” you have to be aware of them, so I have to repeat my question: How do you identify them?
- You suppose? Species are never monotypic.
- Dear Infovarius, mind to inform WikiProject Taxonomy about your bot plans? --Succu (talk) 21:47, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for recommendation, Done. --Infovarius (talk) 11:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- I added some remarks over there. --Succu (talk) 17:05, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for recommendation, Done. --Infovarius (talk) 11:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- 1. I am trying to skip homonymous genera at first. 2. I use taxon (Q16521) always. While for species monotypic taxon (Q310890) is always OK too, I suppose, superset is also correct. --Infovarius (talk) 21:24, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- It's not true that most taxa have no properties. Two questions:
- I think that my task will be: "To provide structural information for species items." There are so many of empty (without properties) species which I am running into. --Infovarius (talk) 12:03, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- @GZWDer:: I know. I see some test edits. But I don't see a reasonable summary, which you demanded. @Infovarius: You should choose a clear and limited area of operation for your first but run. It would be nice if you could define it and run some further test edits. --Succu (talk) 15:17, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Succu: Structor is being tested at testwikidata:Special:Contributions/Structor.--GZWDer (talk) 14:53, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- I've learned API:wbeditentity, so I can do now such edits. Infovarius (talk) 21:26, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: Do more test edits please!--GZWDer (talk) 10:25, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Succu: You should @Infovarius: to get more message.--GZWDer (talk) 10:24, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Bene*, Vogone, Legoktm, Ymblanter, The Anonymouse: Any 'crat to comment?--GZWDer (talk) 04:56, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
@Infovarius: Could you explain this change, please. Thx. --Succu (talk) 19:35, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- I think this is a page logging all actions by bot. @Bene*, Vogone, Legoktm, Ymblanter: Any 'crat to comment?--GZWDer (talk) 10:51, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Let us return here. What is the current situation?--Ymblanter (talk) 07:46, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- The discussions stopped here. --Succu (talk) 07:59, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- Time is changing. Now the task about genus-species linking almost expired because Succu has done most of it. I can still perform the task of labelling species by its scientific name. I support en, de, fr, ru labels and descriptions but can gather information about as many languages as possible. But I won't do it without approving of flag as I'm afraid it'll be in vain because of vast burocracy... Infovarius (talk) 19:01, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- There are around 300.000 items left. :) --Succu (talk) 20:47, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- Why do not the two of you agree on some well-defined task, and then I could flag the bot.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:44, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- There are around 300.000 items left. :) --Succu (talk) 20:47, 14 October 2014 (UTC)